Quark isn't dead yet?
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Apparently, Quark 7 will be a decent release, according to MacWorld. Quark 7? I had forgotten all about Quark. Silly me. Anyway, it’s in public beta stage so you can try it out and offer feedback if you’d like. The way I see it, I’m glad they have a new release—the competition will force InDesign to become even better.
How many of us are actually going to upgrade (or switch back) to Quark?

Comments (12)
Nate Voss said:
I know its early, but: BEST HEADLINE OF 2006.
Posted on January 24, 2006
Richard Earney said:
After the way Quark have treated their users over the years why would anybody go back!!!
Posted on January 24, 2006
Kyle said:
Thanks, Nate. I was inspired by the Emigre references on Bennett’s and Donovan’s STEP cover (Team 4)
Posted on January 24, 2006
Adrian said:
Our creative director is one of the last few Quark holdouts. He got a free beta version of the new Quark Passport not too long ago. Giving your product away is an obvious sign of a sinking ship if you ask me. I wouldn’t use it if they paid me.
Posted on January 24, 2006
Chris Rugen said:
Once I got the Adobe Creative Suite (1), I abandoned Quark at 4.1 for my home office. I still have it installed, just in case, but I have no plans to go back unless they make a stronger product and/or I’m forced to for some reason. At my current job I pushed for and got CS 2 which works well.
My last full-time job used Quark 4.1 then upgraded to 6.5, because our boss was a Quark booster. I have a feeling they’re still using it (a year later). A big part of that was the vendors we used for printing and promos. As an in house shop, we were more beholden to getting things done quick and cheap rather than easily and better. Also, it was cheaper to upgrade than it was to switch (or so went the theory). I think these things are Quark’s mainstay: people who are comfortable in Quark and have been using it for years, or are held back by external factors.
But, as Kyle wrote, healthy competition benefits us more than anything. So it’s a good thing in that sense. I’m not looking forward to splitting my work between them, however, if QX7 really does help Quark make a comeback. But it’ll be much harder for Quark to get people to re-switch back to them than it was for Adobe to get them to switch away in the first place.
Posted on January 25, 2006
Armin Vit said:
Adobe gave away MANY free copies of InDesign to designers – no sinking ship that one, right? It is no different than Motorola planting its latest phone in the clueless hands of Paris Hilton. It is the only way to get people who would otherwise not look at your product.
Posted on January 25, 2006
p.berkbigler said:
It would seem that if Quark really wanted to turn the tide back in its direction free and supportive CUSTOMER SERVICE would seem to be the bigger calling card than the software itself - almost all of the major complaints that I’d had and many others had with the past Quark support often had very little to do with the program running / not running and almost everything to do with feeling left in the lurch by non-available customer service reps.
Additionally, the cost of the upgrades and the overbearing efforts to create an airtight copy protection on their software seem also to have pushed users quickly towards the sunnier shores of Adobe products.
I’ve little doubt that Quark has made significant gains in the “smoothness” of its interface and with its connectivity to outside party software, but I’m most curious to see if they’ve actually restructured the company thinking in a way that opens them back up to their users.
Posted on January 25, 2006
jenny said:
I won’t be switching back (like many people, I had problems with customer support with Quark), but I’m glad to see it - competition is good for everyyone, and I have a couple of friends who are die-hard quark fans who are very happy…
Posted on January 26, 2006
Art said:
Among design students, Quark remained one of the few programs that was difficult to get a copy of. It was always overpriced and packaged as if it were the Mercedes of programs (when Mercedes mattered). But with their last releases, with the automatic 1 GB file sizes - even if nothing much was done - it was easily the symbol for fat, bloated programs. It is still too expensive compared to the market. It offers little more than a program - no customer service, no nothing.
Dont get me wrong, InDesign still needs another version update to be as eloquent as Quark once was, but it is obviously the future when it comes to communication with other programs and files - that aspect which computers are SUPPOSED to be made for.
Posted on January 28, 2006
Ben Wexlar said:
I am a young graphic designer (just recently graduated from design school) and I consider myself software-savvy in this field. I am self-taught in all the applications, including Quark, and am a die-hard Adobe Indesign user. I was able to quickly pick up and master Indesign through trail-and-error use with a little assistance from the help files and a few friends.
Every day I learn new tricks and key commands, and I am always getting better with the software. I haven’t touched Quark in years, but signed up to beta test QuarkExpress 7 and downloaded the software. My first test was to layout a simple six-spread document with columns, margins, bleed, images, and some formatted text. Should be simple, right?
I had forgotten the basics of Quark, so I tried to familiarize myself with its usability. I was easily able to set up a page layout, add pages, and get my grid in place. I was able to make a picture box and place an image in it. After that, Quark becomes infuriating in its clumsiness. Scaling an image inside its frame was a half-hour ordeal with no success.
I thought that with version 7 that they would address some major issues, but they have not. I cannot select tools with key commands, and finding out how to use and find many common functions in layout/design was so convoluted that I gave up after an hour or so. It seems like not much has changed to how the program functions, which was its biggest setback. I mean, how can they compete with Adobe if they don’t look at what works? There are multiple undos, but that’s about as much as I noticed in the hour I spent with Quark.
They will hear from me soon.
Posted on January 31, 2006
Kyle said:
Wow, I thought we would hear at least one comment from a Quark fan who has been eagerly waiting for the v7 release. Perhaps the majority of users really have switched to InDesign.
I started liking InDesign at v1.0, and love it at v4 (CS2). I still have a copy of Quark 4 I use infrequently for one client— otherwise it’s InDesign all the way.
Posted on February 1, 2006
Adrian said:
Update on my creative director: The beta version is messing up the type when he saves an EPS. He is giving up on it until they fix the bugs. That’s what beta versions are for, though, so I probably shouldn’t criticize (as Armin rightly points out).
Posted on February 1, 2006