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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change in advertising is already in progress. Agencies who are not stuck in a timewarp know this. Check out &quot;GameKillers&quot; for Axe Dry by Bartle Bogle Hegarty. It&#039;s was a program produced by the agency and aired by MTV followed up by traditional advertising. Best of all it was meant to entertain and sell product benefit. Unfortunately not all brands are as smart as Apple, Nike or even the Got Milk campaign.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change in advertising is already in progress. Agencies who are not stuck in a timewarp know this. Check out &#8220;GameKillers&#8221; for Axe Dry by Bartle Bogle Hegarty. It&#8217;s was a program produced by the agency and aired by MTV followed up by traditional advertising. Best of all it was meant to entertain and sell product benefit. Unfortunately not all brands are as smart as Apple, Nike or even the Got Milk campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickeleh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickeleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really brilliant advertising is both entertaining and a product demo. Take, for example, the iPod Shuffle spot where people change their clothes (or is it where clothes change their people)... but whichever, every new person clips the product to the garment. Followed by a killer tag line: &quot;Put some music on.&quot;

The entire iPod campaign has been entertainment as product demo.

My theory on why they used silhouettes: So that everybody could imagine that their black.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really brilliant advertising is both entertaining and a product demo. Take, for example, the iPod Shuffle spot where people change their clothes (or is it where clothes change their people)&#8230; but whichever, every new person clips the product to the garment. Followed by a killer tag line: &#8220;Put some music on.&#8221;</p>
<p>The entire iPod campaign has been entertainment as product demo.</p>
<p>My theory on why they used silhouettes: So that everybody could imagine that their black.</p>
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		<title>By: Simanek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simanek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate, I think Su was adding some good stuff to your provocative post. There are some holes in your argument. I think what you were trying to say is that television commercials aren&#039;t, but bad advertising should be, dead. Amen to that.

But I wouldn&#039;t chase off readers that take the time to give you helpful feedback. Even if it&#039;s tinged with a little hate. You&#039;re good at pissing people off in a very entertaining way. If you can razz somebody enough to get them to add their intelligent opinion to your post, you&#039;ve succeeded.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, I think Su was adding some good stuff to your provocative post. There are some holes in your argument. I think what you were trying to say is that television commercials aren&#8217;t, but bad advertising should be, dead. Amen to that.</p>
<p>But I wouldn&#8217;t chase off readers that take the time to give you helpful feedback. Even if it&#8217;s tinged with a little hate. You&#8217;re good at pissing people off in a very entertaining way. If you can razz somebody enough to get them to add their intelligent opinion to your post, you&#8217;ve succeeded.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Flaherty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Flaherty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lest we forget:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lest we forget:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOvFIxUz2XY</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Seagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Seagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I adopted my son about seven years ago, I made a vow he would not grow up a video game junkie or a couch potato. The year before he graced our home, I sold our only TV. For the first two years of his life, he knew nothing of Television. This was one of the best, most liberating things I had ever done, yet it was also the most difficult. I found that I had withdrawal symptoms just like a smoker, or alcoholic would. It took me a year to get used to finding something to do, instead of sitting down and vegging out. We know have two TV&#039;s, both with rabbit ears. We only get two channels and only one without fuzzy lines. I now have two son&#039;s and they are as different as night and day. My youngest one can sit and play on the computer or on his cousins Gameboy for hours. He is only five but can figure out just about any game you plug in. My oldest however, can&#039;t spend 5 minutes in font of a video game or the TV. It bores him. He is constantly building things out of whatever materials he can find, playing out side, soccer, basketball, fishing. It really is amazing the difference those two years made without a TV. I often wonder how much further along our society would be if the TV had not been invented. Carl Sandburg was right, it&#039;s nothing more than an &quot;Idiot Box‚Äù. 

Now that was a rant. Sorry
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I adopted my son about seven years ago, I made a vow he would not grow up a video game junkie or a couch potato. The year before he graced our home, I sold our only TV. For the first two years of his life, he knew nothing of Television. This was one of the best, most liberating things I had ever done, yet it was also the most difficult. I found that I had withdrawal symptoms just like a smoker, or alcoholic would. It took me a year to get used to finding something to do, instead of sitting down and vegging out. We know have two TV&#8217;s, both with rabbit ears. We only get two channels and only one without fuzzy lines. I now have two son&#8217;s and they are as different as night and day. My youngest one can sit and play on the computer or on his cousins Gameboy for hours. He is only five but can figure out just about any game you plug in. My oldest however, can&#8217;t spend 5 minutes in font of a video game or the TV. It bores him. He is constantly building things out of whatever materials he can find, playing out side, soccer, basketball, fishing. It really is amazing the difference those two years made without a TV. I often wonder how much further along our society would be if the TV had not been invented. Carl Sandburg was right, it&#8217;s nothing more than an &#8220;Idiot Box‚Äù. </p>
<p>Now that was a rant. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: Su</title>
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		<dc:creator>Su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Shat on Paul Rand&#039;s grave lately?&lt;/i&gt;

No. But then I can&#039;t think of a single reason I&#039;d ever go anywhere near it. I didn&#039;t think, by the way, that it was possible to troll your own comments area, but you seem to have managed it. I don&#039;t recall saying a single word against Rand, but rather what is a not particularly good logo that was revealed long after he was dead, which is frankly irrelevant. It&#039;s good there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/002560.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a record&lt;/a&gt; around, no? As a bonus question: Who actually launched the first insult there? Yes.
Also for the record: correcting grammar is just tacky, and the single time I&#039;ve done it at Speak Up was in response to some twit who was doing same while churning the errors out himself. I won&#039;t apologize for being a fan of the object lesson.

Anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
You seem to be operating under the impression that what I&#039;ve said above is completely irrelevant to your little unresearched screed. I&#039;ll leave that for others to discuss, if they like. But I do find it amusing that you actually think the car insurance industry, which has a &lt;em&gt;captive market&lt;/em&gt;(in that most states require you have some level of insurance at all times) would bother going to such lengths as creating entire divisions and campaigns marketing to people who &quot;do not buy their product.&quot;

Back to your regularly scheduled.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Shat on Paul Rand&#8217;s grave lately?</i></p>
<p>No. But then I can&#8217;t think of a single reason I&#8217;d ever go anywhere near it. I didn&#8217;t think, by the way, that it was possible to troll your own comments area, but you seem to have managed it. I don&#8217;t recall saying a single word against Rand, but rather what is a not particularly good logo that was revealed long after he was dead, which is frankly irrelevant. It&#8217;s good there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/002560.html" rel="nofollow">a record</a> around, no? As a bonus question: Who actually launched the first insult there? Yes.<br />
Also for the record: correcting grammar is just tacky, and the single time I&#8217;ve done it at Speak Up was in response to some twit who was doing same while churning the errors out himself. I won&#8217;t apologize for being a fan of the object lesson.</p>
<p>Anyway.<br />
You seem to be operating under the impression that what I&#8217;ve said above is completely irrelevant to your little unresearched screed. I&#8217;ll leave that for others to discuss, if they like. But I do find it amusing that you actually think the car insurance industry, which has a <em>captive market</em>(in that most states require you have some level of insurance at all times) would bother going to such lengths as creating entire divisions and campaigns marketing to people who &#8220;do not buy their product.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back to your regularly scheduled.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Voss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Voss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, you&#039;re welcome to make that rant anytime.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, you&#8217;re welcome to make that rant anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin McCauley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin McCauley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to interject and add something else about television advertising: the frequency, or more specifically, how just about every advertiser gets it wrong.  Maybe I watch an above-average amount of television (at least in the background) but I get so tired of seeing the same commercials and it usually causes me to resent the company, even I&#039;ve never actually paid attention to it.  

Apple gets it right.  Everything: the badass iPod Shuffle commercials to the Get a Mac ads, are played just infrequently enough that it&#039;s like a treat when they come on.  

Now look at anything T-Mobile, anything Cingular, or pretty much any cellular provider.  They are too dull, too often.  Cingular&#039;s &quot;fewest dropped calls&quot; commercials were a little clever at first-- and if you&#039;re like me, you might have looked up from what you were doing when the commercial went completely silent-- but after seeing it multiple times every half-hour I don&#039;t think anyone cared about it, or thought about what it was for, or wanted to walk into a Cingular store to support them for this bombardment.  

Just a sidenote: have you seen the commercial for Cingular where there&#039;s two guys singing the lyrics to &quot;Rock the Casbah&quot; as &quot;Lock the Cashbox&quot; or something equally stupid?  As far as I can tell, the commercial is advertising ringtones that sound like songs... &lt;i&gt;which every carrier has provided for about three years now.&lt;/i&gt;  Am I missing something?

As for the Esurance-- I never really have paid attention to it.  It&#039;s sort of too busy and has too much going on so it cancels out-- if I&#039;m focused on something else I don&#039;t bother.  It would be effective, I would imagine, if it were played before the previews at a movie theatre, where you have undivided attention.  But I &lt;i&gt;hate&lt;/i&gt; the very notion of commercials before previews before a movie... but that&#039;s another rant entirely.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to interject and add something else about television advertising: the frequency, or more specifically, how just about every advertiser gets it wrong.  Maybe I watch an above-average amount of television (at least in the background) but I get so tired of seeing the same commercials and it usually causes me to resent the company, even I&#8217;ve never actually paid attention to it.  </p>
<p>Apple gets it right.  Everything: the badass iPod Shuffle commercials to the Get a Mac ads, are played just infrequently enough that it&#8217;s like a treat when they come on.  </p>
<p>Now look at anything T-Mobile, anything Cingular, or pretty much any cellular provider.  They are too dull, too often.  Cingular&#8217;s &#8220;fewest dropped calls&#8221; commercials were a little clever at first&#8211; and if you&#8217;re like me, you might have looked up from what you were doing when the commercial went completely silent&#8211; but after seeing it multiple times every half-hour I don&#8217;t think anyone cared about it, or thought about what it was for, or wanted to walk into a Cingular store to support them for this bombardment.  </p>
<p>Just a sidenote: have you seen the commercial for Cingular where there&#8217;s two guys singing the lyrics to &#8220;Rock the Casbah&#8221; as &#8220;Lock the Cashbox&#8221; or something equally stupid?  As far as I can tell, the commercial is advertising ringtones that sound like songs&#8230; <i>which every carrier has provided for about three years now.</i>  Am I missing something?</p>
<p>As for the Esurance&#8211; I never really have paid attention to it.  It&#8217;s sort of too busy and has too much going on so it cancels out&#8211; if I&#8217;m focused on something else I don&#8217;t bother.  It would be effective, I would imagine, if it were played before the previews at a movie theatre, where you have undivided attention.  But I <i>hate</i> the very notion of commercials before previews before a movie&#8230; but that&#8217;s another rant entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Voss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Voss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Su, where would the world be without your love-to-hate-everything attitude? A better place, maybe? Shat on Paul Rand&#039;s grave lately?

Anyway you must have been looking to read a different article and accidentally read mine, explaining why you&#039;re so upset that I didn&#039;t write the things you were looking forward to reading. Thanks for letting me know they weren&#039;t there. Now isn&#039;t there some n00b on SpeakUp you should attacking for their bad grammar?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Su, where would the world be without your love-to-hate-everything attitude? A better place, maybe? Shat on Paul Rand&#8217;s grave lately?</p>
<p>Anyway you must have been looking to read a different article and accidentally read mine, explaining why you&#8217;re so upset that I didn&#8217;t write the things you were looking forward to reading. Thanks for letting me know they weren&#8217;t there. Now isn&#8217;t there some n00b on SpeakUp you should attacking for their bad grammar?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Moran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminded me of something I heard at a speech put on by Hallmark. It was a lady speaker and she used to work for them doing commercials for their &quot;Hallmark Presents&quot; TV specials. I can&#039;t remember her name.

She said they&#039;re aim was to, &quot;Make people feel good about themselves, then make them feel good about Hallmark.&quot; She showed some brilliant examples. 

What a great concept.

VR/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminded me of something I heard at a speech put on by Hallmark. It was a lady speaker and she used to work for them doing commercials for their &#8220;Hallmark Presents&#8221; TV specials. I can&#8217;t remember her name.</p>
<p>She said they&#8217;re aim was to, &#8220;Make people feel good about themselves, then make them feel good about Hallmark.&#8221; She showed some brilliant examples. </p>
<p>What a great concept.</p>
<p>VR/</p>
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